{"id":18194,"date":"2022-12-13T10:09:09","date_gmt":"2022-12-13T09:09:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kennethsorensen.dk\/?p=18194"},"modified":"2026-03-02T17:27:18","modified_gmt":"2026-03-02T16:27:18","slug":"old-age-and-death-assagioli","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kennethsorensen.dk\/en\/old-age-and-death-assagioli\/","title":{"rendered":"Old Age, Death, and the Perenniality of Life"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-assagioli-i-neither-desire-nor-fear-the-death-of-my-body-since-i-am-profoundly-convinced-not-only-of-survival-but-above-all-of-the-perenniality-of-life\">An Interview on Aging, Inner Development, and Spiritual Continuity<\/h2>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kennethsorensen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/William-Blake.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"822\" class=\"wp-image-18196\" src=\"https:\/\/kennethsorensen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/William-Blake-1024x822.png\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kennethsorensen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/William-Blake-1024x822.png 1024w, https:\/\/kennethsorensen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/William-Blake-300x241.png 300w, https:\/\/kennethsorensen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/William-Blake-768x617.png 768w, https:\/\/kennethsorensen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/William-Blake-400x321.png 400w, https:\/\/kennethsorensen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/William-Blake-419x337.png 419w, https:\/\/kennethsorensen.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/William-Blake.png 1270w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p>Interview with <strong>Roberto Assagioli<\/strong><br \/>Conducted by <strong>Solange de Marignac<\/strong>, January 1970<br \/>Assagioli Archives, Florence<br \/>Original title: <em>Vecchiaia e Morte<\/em><br \/>Translated from Italian by Jan Kuniholm and Francesco Viglienghi<br \/>Translation from French revised by Roberto Assagioli<\/p>\r\n<p><strong>Editorial note<\/strong><br \/>This text is a transcript of an interview with Roberto Assagioli conducted by Solange de Marignac in 1970. Roberto Assagioli is the subject of the interview and not the author of a written article. The title, abstract, and cross-sections in this online edition have been added by the editor, Kenneth S\u00f8rensen, to support readability, navigation, and archival consistency. The original wording of the interview has not been altered.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-dots\" \/>\r\n\r\n\r\n<h3 data-start=\"1865\" data-end=\"2663\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">Abstract<\/span><\/span><\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" data-start=\"1865\" data-end=\"2663\">In this reflective interview, Roberto Assagioli addresses the psychological and spiritual dimensions of aging and death. Speaking with Solange de Marignac, he discusses physical limitation, inner freedom, lifelong development, and the continuity of consciousness beyond bodily decline. Drawing on examples from science, personal experience, and psychosynthesis, Assagioli emphasizes attitude, acceptance, and inner growth as decisive factors in aging well. He articulates his conviction in the perenniality of life and presents the \u201cpsychosynthesis of the ages\u201d as a way of integrating the qualities of childhood, youth, adulthood, and old age into a unified inner life.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-dots\" \/>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">Interview granted by Dr. Roberto Assagioli to Ms. Solange de Marignac in January 1970. Translation from French to Italian was revised and corrected by Dr. Assagioli.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/em><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">S. de M. &#8211; Many people fear that old age will bring them physical limitations and that this will adversely affect their moral and intellectual capacities. May I ask you, who have been severely affected in your health, how do you view this problem?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<h3>Physical Limitation and Inner Freedom<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">RA &#8211; Moral and intellectual capacities are not necessarily affected by physical limitations, even severe ones. And this is true at any age. Numerous examples testify to this: I will mention only Charles Darwin, who could work only one or two hours a day; William James, who had precarious health all his life; and above all I will recall the luminous example of Adele Kahn who, while confined to her bed by a disease of the spinal column, carried out a beneficial missionary work for numerous sick people by her words and her writings.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">As for me, the considerable physical limitations due to age do not seem to affect my abilities, as I will say shortly. On the contrary, I take advantage of some of these limitations, such as deafness, which prevents me \u2014 it is true \u2014 from listening to the music I love. But it spares me from listening to the music I do not love and \u2014 above all \u2014 to a lot of &#8230; <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><a id=\"_ftnref1\" href=\"#_ftn1\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">[1]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"> nonsense!<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>Attitude, Acceptance, and Creative Compensation<\/h3>\r\n<p><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"> In my opinion, a lot depends on our attitude. A serene acceptance of limitations (and this goes for all \u2014 even non-physical ones \u2014 and who doesn&#8217;t have them?) greatly eliminates their negative influence. They can be seen as a challenge to overcome, and thus encourage us to compensate and \u2014 perhaps \u2014 overcompensate.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3><\/h3>\r\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/rbB_pE2qf6E?si=MWfoJgkra4bxB3D3\" width=\"100%\" height=\"400\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; width: 0px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 0;\" class=\"mce_SELRES_start\">\ufeff<\/span><\/iframe><\/p>\r\n<h3><\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">S. de M. &#8211; We often hear this observation: &#8220;I am too old to change&#8221;. You, who deeply believe in evolution \u2014 what is your opinion on this point? Do you personally feel that you can continue to perfect yourself? And that you still need to modify or develop certain aspects of your thinking?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<h3>Aging as Continued Inner Development<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">RA &#8211; I sincerely declare that it is possible for me to continue to perfect myself, and I apply myself no less actively, and perhaps even more so than before.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>Thought, Creativity, and Ongoing Evolution<\/h3>\r\n<p><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"> My thought is in continuous development; new aspects of Reality often present themselves to my mind. This arouses joy and enthusiasm in me, but it is not without its drawbacks, for I feel impelled to modify and improve (at least I hope so!) what I had written in the past, however much I realize that I would do better to use the time I have left on earth to produce something new.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">S. de M. &#8211; If you don&#8217;t mind me asking, can I ask you how you think about death, and yours in particular?<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<h3>Death, Survival, and the Perenniality of Life<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">RA &#8211; I neither desire nor fear the death of my body, since I am profoundly convinced not only of survival, but above all of the perenniality of life.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>The Spiritual Nucleus and Immortality<\/h3>\r\n<p><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"> I&#8217;m convinced that the &#8220;spiritual nucleus&#8221;, which is the essence of ourselves, is immortal and that its manifestations will be renewed with an ever-increasing awareness and creative power.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">S. de M. &#8211; What would you have to say to someone who asked you how to age well?\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>The Psychosynthesis of the Ages<\/h3>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">RA &#8211; In order to age well, one should do what I have called the \u201cpsychosynthesis of the ages\u201d; that is, to some extent keeping present and alive in us what is best and most valid in each age:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<h3>Integrating the Qualities of All Life Stages<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">The simplicity, the openness to the world, the sense of admiration of the child.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">The fervor of the adolescent.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">The impetus and dynamism of the young person.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">The balance and maturity of the adult.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">The manifold fruits of the experiences \u2014 and the gift of wisdom that comes with them \u2014 of old age.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">In this way, the elderly person has the privilege of being able to become again, from time to time, a child with the children, and a youth with the young; and to communicate with benevolent understanding with people of all ages. Thus, while gradually withdrawing from his active participation in external life, the elderly person can become a solid point of support and a center of beneficial radiation around him.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\r\n<h3>\r\n\r\n<\/h3>\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a id=\"_ftn1\" href=\"#_ftnref1\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">[1]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"> Elisions are in the original transcription. <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><em><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\"><span dir=\"auto\" style=\"vertical-align: inherit;\">\u2014 Tr.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/em><\/p>\r\n<h3><\/h3>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An Interview on Aging, Inner Development, and Spiritual Continuity &nbsp; Interview with Roberto AssagioliConducted by Solange de Marignac, January 1970Assagioli Archives, FlorenceOriginal title: Vecchiaia e MorteTranslated from Italian by Jan Kuniholm and Francesco ViglienghiTranslation from French revised by Roberto Assagioli Editorial noteThis text is a transcript of an interview with Roberto Assagioli conducted by Solange 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